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Each faded green soft cover Lehrbuch or text book was printed using the early offset printing process consisting of 231 pages of Weimar era Police "Guidelines". Taming the SFAR: How Ruger's Small-Frame .308 Runs Suppressed. From the same time period is this beautiful DWM Swiss contract Model 1906 Luger sold on the commercial market in 1920s, and includes a vintage shooting medal from the Moudon, a historic town in the canton of Vaud in Switzerland. - Kommando Nuernberg-Fuerth, berittene Abteilung, gun 5, W.K.S.5. collar slot aligned and properly threaded, leaving a proper space allowing the These considerations must form the basis for the training of the police officer. A noted holster collector and expert states after examining pictures of the subject unidentified maker cut-back Artillery to Police holster that: The cleaning rod leather section added to the subject Artillery cleaning rod pouch or sleeve, came from an original sleeve. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. What magazine variation is proper for your Luger P.08? I have several lugers and Broomhandles with the "HZaJt18" marking on them. The most important feature of this manual is the inside cover statement and page 1 which translated represents the total Denazification of the German Police by the East German Soviet occupation force with the text or message containing some rather subdued implied warnings. All of this happened between 1912 and 1926. Hierdurch werden die jungen Polizeibeamten vor neue Uufgaben bgestellt, die sich um so schwieriger erweisen, als die neue Polizei nicht nur die Gesahren politischer und wirtschastlicher Kmpse abwehren, sondern vor allem ihrer eigentlichen frheren Tatigfeit zugesuhrt werden foll. Based on the wooden box style of the two examples, and the identical text font size and styles, that there are more of these cleaning kits with identical contents and that they are all, most likely made by the same German manufacturer. The lower of the two (brass) studs is not an original German stud. Per Weimar Lugers by J. regulations issued in 1922, and are shown in the following table. Additionally, since the subject holster body attached cleaning rod, cut-back from the original, approximately 230 m/m length to 180 m/m length (or 210 m/m total with the added 30 m/m section) leather pouch/sleeve is original to the holster body, as attested by the original stitching. It is speculated that the shift was also motivated by the need to communicate with occupied territories during WW2 and the use of Fraktur would inhibit that communication. But there is a very great difference: Gestapo was German, working in enemy-country. Akah made commercial holsters in the 1920s and 1930s with some used by the Germen Polizei. If you collect Lugers, you need this book. Sturgess in TBLAP also states that the new police cleaning rods were issued to each police pistol, further stating in the Fig. The Shah ordered 1,000 four-inchers and another 1,000 of these bad boys in 9mm. Opening the loading tool cover flap reveals the original brown leather. This example is a very rare 1943 dated military contract piece in 9mm, one of just 300 produced that year. back-side attached single, horizontal leather stock block strip and removing the center block. Remnants of the original artillery holster body up-strap attachment are visible; the cover flap keeper strap and the brass stud were removed and the hole was plugged in the cover flap and a belt buckle/strap closure, as stated above was added. Police arms had a Brass stud added to the (cover) flap, additional brass stud added to the cleaning rod pouch. But you must recognize that; being a researcher yourself! ad[3]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Marna.jpg'; Any attempt to insert or force the Police cleaning rod with brass stopper past the brass stud would damage, either the rather stiff, added inflexible cleaning rod upper leather pouch section, the holster body or the actual cleaning rod. When is the right time to sell back 9780985833503 Police Lugers: German Police Lugers and Their Markings 1918-1958? Password: Register: All Albums: FAQ: Calendar: Mark Forums Read: View First Unread Thread Tools: Display Modes: 06-24-2002, 11:58 PM . Bavarian Police Defense Force (Polizeiwehr Bayern), I own a u suffix luger with a blank toggle. Many combinations of eagles and numbers are noted. It is assumed that at the time of the conversion the holster was still brown. Mauser Sneak Police. Allenstein district. Pictured are multiple views of the above mentioned 1908/13 Commercial-Army-Police P.08 Luger, s/n 69859. states the following regarding this variation. On the back, between the belt loops is a Nazi Eagle, short wingsAlmost Police looking but cannot be as it is a WaAThe # appears to be JL16. . Since the first edition was published in February d. Zs. Still, page 174 Figure 28b describes and pictures a P.08 barrel installed ERMA muzzle protector in the text caption that states: This device fits over the muzzle of a Luger and reportedly protects the barrel rifling at the muzzle from the cleaning rod shaft. The instruction manual is pictured and other interesting details are described in. From the Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess collection. of "P". He should conscientiously fulfill his obligations, should be professional in his measures, be in touch with the public, but also act strictly against obvious violations, on the other hand avoid all incidents or even abuses by which the mood of a considerable part of the population is even more against those Police are involved when it is unfortunately already the case. Genuine German Luger - Largest Variety of Lugers Offered. Borge Villy Redsted Pertersen, alias 'Lieutenant Larsen' and other cover names, was among those who overcame. Pictured is an exceptional example of one such Police officer private purchase, unmarked and unmodified Weimar era Police clamshell dress bayonet. All Rights Reserved, Lugers! GERMAN POLICE LUGER P08 MAGAZINE DOVE MARKINGS. Simson proofs. When reworking the chap. . What is unclear is the status of the Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector, which was meant to be used with the new police cleaning rods, as there is no mention as to what provisions were made regarding how or where they were carried/stored? Bild (picture) 102-00327A Foto: o .Ang. The lack of relevant textbooks has often been put to the test. Im Strasrecht haben ebensalls injngster Zeit z. L. erhebliche Umwlzungen stattgesunden. Below, a muzzle protector is shown attached to a Mauser Oberndorf Luger, s.n. Knowing that, and having the history of the Der Polizeibeamte seiht sich daher den vielseitigen Uusgaben gegenberstehen. Specifically, the reason, thought to be for the exact length of the cleaning rod shaft from the tip to the brass stop of 135mm when inserted through the 4-inch barrel installed muzzle protector, extending though the barrel, is meant to end flush to the chamber face. 127; view 1, August Weiss states further that the 'Riff' lot was produced by DWM late 1927 - early 1928. (communications training It is interesting to note however that no pistols having a blank toggle and the 'v' suffix have been reported so far. for WWII , Hitler ordered the production of Lugers. Still. Additionally, it seems incongruous that a 1920s post WW1 manufacture brass stud was added or replaced when clearly period correct brass studs were available as attested by the added brass stud, while the apparent goal was to modify the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and cover flap to accommodate a Police cleaning rod as the lower replaced brass stud would clearly interfere with the insertion of a Police cleaning rod. Prussian Eagle adorned clam shell device under the grip. Faint, illegible makers markings are stamped inside the cover flap. The other marking is an inspection stamp, consisting of a crown over a 'fraktur,' or letter. Mfg Part Number. Even though considerably outnumbered, the Riff inflicted nearly six times the number of casualties on the Spanish and French than they suffered. The military character and Pictured are a few examples: 1935 and 1936 are the only known manufacturing dates for the TP or Technische Polizeischule property marked holsters. Mauser or the Police HQ in Berlin? It was subject to the command of the local Reichswehr Pictured is an (officers) Upper Silesian "Landespolizei" buckle. Luger wooden box cleaning kit. Eagle over 83 is the marking for the responsable acceptance office for Mauser (WaA83). The other marking is an inspection stamp, consisting of a crown over a 'fraktur,' or letter. 2866 is pictured in two views, one with the Xs removed and the other enhanced. 1. This was removed and the hilt was shortened accordingly. It is also unlikely that any of the cut-back artillery holsters will be located with police markings as per TBLAP VIII, C19 page 1267 where it states: Modified army pattern holsters, whether of short LP.08 pattern originally, were not subject to formal inspection and marking upon conversion to the police pattern. This is a 9mm Luger manufactured by DWM for the Riff Tribe in Morocco. (Bavarian) State Police. It has the matching last two digits of the serial number in the various other parts. Pictured is a WW1 P08 army holster modified to a Police holster in the 1920s or possibly early 1930s by removing the angled buckle and strap closure, converting to the police type closure by adding a pull-up strap to the holster body and adding a steel stud[4] and leather keeper strip to the cover flap. There's a number "1" above the serial number on the base, which is indicative of police issued magazines, as the police numbered their magazines this way. Einwohnerwehr had a membership of hundreds of thousands and was There are other, more obscure WW1 or Weimar era police organization affiliated belt buckles with unique design emblems. similar restriction. The Germans used the letter "J" instead of "I" quite often to avoid confusion with the number "1." I am interested in the following symbols on the bottom side of the magazine, too. Army, Navy, Police. Regarding the necessity to modify a cut-back Artillery to Police holster cleaning rod pouch/sleeve to accommodate a Police cleaning rod is questioned, as the 1915 P. Braunleder Cln cut-back Artillery to Police holster, as stated earlier, was acquired with a Police steel shaft cleaning rod with brass stopper, fully inserted in the original, unmodified cleaning rod pouch/sleeve, albeit a cover flap modified by adding a section of leather, allowing the cover flap to completely close over the seven ring wooden barrel Police cleaning rod handle. They appear to fall into two categories: P08s that always were P08s and P08s that were formerly unmarked Landjgerei LP08s (many 1918 DWM LP08s) that were reworked by the PTV in 1929-30 and reissued as P08s to the Landjgerei and other police. The corner of the grip was removed to allow the safety to function. Pictured are view 1, view 2 and view 3 of the subject Police holster. This allows the cleaning of the barrel and receiver chamber without any damage to the barrel muzzle face or damaging contact to the breechblock face. (motor transport seciont), Sonderwagenstaffel der Kraftfahrabteilung (armored vehicle squadron), Polizei-Reitschule (police equestrian school), Assigned to ad[0]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/germanmilitaria.jpg'; My question, please forive if its too absurd, is" Why weren't the Riff Contract pistols ordered from the Simson Co.?" The variation 1 police marked 4mm sub caliber muzzle protector that can be installed in a single step seems more practical for use with the police cleaning rod. It is identical to the 4mm conversion unit part that retains the barrel and may be one and the same. German firearms are loaded with a variety of markings and stamps. Weimar era Police cleaning rods are easily identified by their 7-ring wooden barrel type handles vs. the Imperial era artillery LP.08 and navy P.04 with their 6-ring wooden barrel type wooden handles.The use of these new style police cleaning rods, which coincidently are the last design and use of a wooden barrel handle cleaning rod for the P.08, is described by Sturgess in TBLAP, VIII, C19, pp 1331, 1332 as follows: Most were fitted with bell-shaped brass stops, soft soldered on their shafts, to give the correct length, 130 135mm approximately, for cleaning the barrel of the short P.08 when used with the Mndungsschoner (muzzle protector) which was then in police service. state of Bavaria had the small arms issued to its members of the 11-17-2022 12:57 PM by Pistol. Pw.B. The subject WaAJL16 stamped Police style holster is the first one of two noted examples with the second WaAJL16 stamped holster being a P.08 Army style holster which has generated much collector speculation and opining. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 4 ----------------------------------------------------------. a 1920s chamber stamped commercial P.08 Luger, The third is a late 1920s sear bar and magazine safety, German acceptance stamped E/WaA66 Police Luger s/n 4559t. Regarding the use of the police cleaning rod in the field it can be used without the barrel affixed Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector. the ministry's Official Directory provides clear, concise and easy-to-understand information to the police officers about their own rights and duties and how they are to deal with the daily demands of the service. Simson & Company - Suhl, Germany&break;4. The IMKK, Inter-Alliierte Militaer-Kontroll-Kommission (Inter-Allied 3 5 im Buch II hat mich herr Polizeihauptmann Baetsch, Ministerium des Innern, in liebenswrdigster Meise unterstutzt, wosr ich ihm an dieser Stelle meinen herzlichsten Dant ausspreche. Another vexing issue is Weimar photos that shows groups of NCO Police with a mix of ordinary belt buckles and rectangular box style Weimar Prussian eagles and other Weimar Police photos of what looks to be all NCO personnel with ordinary belt buckles, suggesting the vast majority of Weimar era Police wore plain belt buckles. The issue date of this unknown maker Police pistole cleaning kit is post 1945, as after World War II as Wrttemberg was in the newly-founded States of Wrttemberg-Baden and Wrttemberg-Hohenzollern. 4 days Left WW2 ERA GERMAN POLICE LUGER HOLSTER RIG $200. This holster has been incorrectly described as an Air Surveillance Departments Police holster or Luft Hannover based on a 1993 publication titled German Small Arms Markings by Joachim Grtz & Don L. Bryans. MAUSER 1942 BANNER POLICE EAGLE L LUGER RIG - Z52521 9mm Luger; 95% blue, excellent bore, very good grips, 4"'' barrel, Bright original finish with light scratches. These consisted of the following city and introduced sometime in the late 1920s, and later in the early 1930s, many being police acceptance marked on the shaft. Decoding these proof marks is very useful in determining the age and history of the gun. The fourth is a very early 3-digit, circa 1930 production DWM/Mauser commercial/Police Luger serial number 873V. As an example, a major Luger dealer, who occasionally offers Diese Frwgungen mssen die Grundlage fr die Uusbildung des Polizeibeamten bilden. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN marked police holster with a Weimer era Sunburst K police inspection stamp; view 1. The new Freistaat Preuen style eagle was adopted as the emblem of the Preuen Schutzpolizei, (Prussian Protection Police) and the Preuen Kommunalpolizei, (Prussian Local/Municipal Police) and was utilized on their belt buckles. Holster is also marked Bahnschutz RBD Halle (S) This rare leather S.K.g 715 holster by Otto Stuertz Allenstein is in excellent condition. (May indicate manufacture or rework.) In the organization of the police, disorder is of decisive importance for the regulation of the individual types of police, without which the reconstruction of this direction, which is so important for the state life, would have been a problem. The gun was converted to a German Police Luger during the Nazi era sometime between 1928, the year of manufacture, and 1934 by adding a sear safety and forward gripstrap Police marking, longitudinally stamped "S.M. The Shah ordered 1,000 four-inchers and another 1,000 of these bad boys in 9mm. There is no doubt as to what variation of Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector was used in conjunction with the new 1920s police cleaning rod with brass stopper with, at least, one Weimar era police station as evidenced in Weimar Lugers,1993 page 183, figure 47c by J. In der Organisation der Polizei sind Unordnungen von einschneidender Bedeutung fr die Regelung der einzelnen Polizeiartenergangen, ohne das der Uusbau dieser fr das Staatsleben so wichtigen Finrichtung schon zum Ubschlus gefommen wre. The missing upper left corner of the left grip is part of the mag safety modification. had 96 or 98 mm long barrels, and also only the 7.65 mm caliber. 19-130 pictures a cut-back LP.08 holster with a text caption, specifically and unequivocally, stating that the holster cleaning rod sleeve was modified by addition of a wider top section and second stud to accommodate the long Police cleaning rod with soldered on travel stop i.e., if a police cleaning rod with brass stopper wont fit the original cleaning rod sleeve, what difference would it make, dimensionally, to extend the length and not the diameter of the holster body leather cleaning rod sleeve? There are many possible combinations of Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. links[7]='https://www.marnamilitaria.com'; Regarding the completely intact magazine safety of 4559t, very few of these police Lugers survived as nearly all of these magazine safety assemblies were deactivated by cutting off the front end of the mechanism under a decree of May 1937. This information came from a small book I have named The Luger Handbook by Aarron Davis. Since this ammo is rare, it is considered to be collectible ammunition. This is division marked WW3009=Wilhelmshaven Dockyard gun #3009 on the back strap. Pictured is a 4mm; excellent bore, 5'' barrel insert for Luger pistols chambered in .30 Luger (7.65mm Parabellum) with loading tool; view 1, view 2, view 3. A round buckle for Officers ranks and a box buckle for NCOs ranks utilizing the Freistaat Preuen eagle and are believed to have been introduced in 1921 and were utilized until 1936. 4. Either the original placement of the holster body cleaning rod pouch/sleeve entrance lip was incredibly low, with the entrance lip being 46 m/m below the holster body spine edge entrance lip, requiring the addition of a 33 m/m length leather strip, raising the entrance to within 15 m/m of the holster body spine entrance lip. Kriminalpolizei (detective force), Assigned to Otherwise, the magazine has no proof stamps or markings besides the serial number. Pictured is a black dyed 1933 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era (1929-36) Sunburst police inspection stamp and P08 pistol issue number S.E.I. Unit marks were applied to many kinds of German military and police In actuality, a really rhetorical issue, as except for the two pictured and discussed holsters, being the only known published examples noted to date. He should work on the internal corsage, promote public security, order and tranquility and, above all, give every citizen the opportunity to fulfill his moral duty to exercise his intellectual and physical strength to the full. They sure set off a display real nice. Inter-war Commercial Lugers (both rework and new manufacture); all Police models (both rework and new manufacture); and all Dutch and Finnish Lugers are of particular interest. Apparently, there are other, period German Police Luger wooden box cleaning kits, another example being REINIGUNGSGERTFR PISTOLE = POLIZEI BADEN = although it is not clear as to the date of manufacture is pre or post 1945 as the state of Baden existed prior to 1945 and it wasnt until 1946 that the state of Wurternberg-Baden was formed. Another NAZI era example being the Walther PP and PPK pistols pictured in Axis Pistols 1986 by J. The reworking ends in May 1921. A first glance through the new evidence that became available to me does not change my opinion as stated above. These Nazi Police bayonets are frequently described as Dress bayonets, which is a misnomer. Pictured is a disassembled view of the subject aftermarket P08 marked and police stick wing acceptance stamped, variation 1 muzzle protector. Although, common to both cut-back Artillery holsters featured herein, as originally made, was the inability to close the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve cover flap over a fully inserted Police cleaning rod without modifications, being the addition of a second, higher located brass stud on the subject example 1 unidentified maker cut-back Artillery to Police holster cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and the necessity of adding a section of leather, attached above the original cover flap location to the example 2, 1915 P. Braunleder Cln cut-back Artillery to Police holster cleaning rod pouch/sleeve cover flap. The fourth is a very early 3-digit, circa 1930 production DWM/Mauser commercial/Police Luger serial number 873V. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in May be blued from 1923. The holster front is stamped L.Z.A. Pictured is a variation 1, spring loaded muzzle protector, which is the only one of two known examples of a muzzle protector used by the Wehrmacht or German army as indicated by the droop-wing eagle over WaA107 army inspection stamp located on the right side flat. information about where such materiel have been (e.g., which battles in The American, British and French allies in concert with Germany restructured the western Berlin Police to reflect the western democracies as illustrated by the then leader of the free world; another picture. If it is made after 1918it is a reproduction. The right side of the slide has a weimar eagle with WaA66 below. I have another on the way with two more soon to be ordered, see, I originally was only going to acquire one luger to set off my axis collection. The conclusion being is that the modification, if indeed done for the reason described, was an ill-conceived, poorly thought out exercise that didnt work out, and that the special Police cleaning rod with added brass stopper, as stated by some Luger authors, was never intended to be carried in a cut-back Artillery to Police holster, with the subject holster being the sole published example so modified. Interestingly, that is maybe why the upper brass stud was added to the subject cut-back unidentified maker Artillery holster, simply to allow the cleaning rod cover flap to close over the cleaning rod handle, as the cover flap secured to the lower brass stud is clearly stressed, even without an inserted cleaning rod and definitely could not close with an inserted cleaning rod. Per Luger collectors the E/Mg10 marking is rarely encountered. However, no Police bayonets, in general, were issue items, so they would be more "service" items, rather than dress. The reassignment of 9754r to the Weimar navy explains the removal of the Sear Safety and the Magazine Safety. Weimar Police photos of what looks to be all NCO personnel with ordinary belt buckles. Hardback with dust cover. Pictured is a similar aftermarket P08 and police stick-wing acceptance stamped muzzle protector disassembled. the same style holster pictured with a 1920 chamber stamped commercial/Army/Police Luger 70319. Weimar era Police cleaning rods are easily identified by their 7-ring wooden barrel type handles vs. the Imperial era artillery LP.08 and navy P.04 with their 6-ring wooden barrel type wooden handles. We talked to a subject matter expert who repairs WW1 / WW2 h To the best of our knowledge, all the examples shown are original pre-1945 manufacture. This is notwithstanding the fact that there were obviously less Weimar Era Police officers than NCO Police personnel. It is interesting that the well-known Luger dealer that sold the Sturgess cut-back LP.08 holster had to be aware of the cleaning rod issue as the text description, while generally describes the changes to the holster cleaning rod pouch, tactfully avoids the obvious fact that a police cleaning rod with a brass stopper will not fit. with the following rear cover page translations, of which both Volume I and Volume II front and rear covers are identical, with the rear cover upper paragraph statement: The "Guide" compiled in It does however have a small chip on the left pistol grip above the magazine release button and the magazine does not match (blue body, aluminum base "+" spare with "2" and w suffix) The dealer wants $1,200 firm but not sure if that is fair price. Approximately 5 produced (2 originals known), not numbered. jeb111. Borchardt C93 - produced 1893-1902. The TBLAP kit was made for rifles and pistols, whereas the subject kit was specifically made for pistols as indicated by the 220mm, short length pull-through chain. (Schutzpolizei Berlin) 12022 Xd. Borchardt-Luger - produced 1895-1896. Spain controlled two small mountainous sections of Northern Morocco that were separated by a bay. view 3. The weirdest part is the stamp on the inside back panel. Police Lugers: German Police Lugers & their markings, 1918-1958 by Tinker. regulations issued in 1920, and are shown in the following table. License and control of businesses; street lighting; control and upkeep of road surfaces; night watchmen; wells & water conduits; fire fighting; street begging; public health; passport, registration, and aliens' affairs; the Theater Police; the Market Police; servants office; embezzlement; control of gambling; the Morals Police; trade affairs; issue of hunting licenses; control of mentally ill and insane, and facilities for them; supervision of trucking matters; construction matters; and . The base is too thick and the ball shape is incorrect. 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